The ladies have an awesome view of collective vision at the ABC Daytime Show round table. Please tell me you caught The Views HOT TOPICS discussion Tuesday morning? No? It was a repeat of the December 4th broadcast, (the day after the NO INDICTMENT VERDICT for the officer that killed Eric Garner). So, you didn’t see it? Well you’re in luck. The broadcast was so HOT and HEAD ON that I could really go on and on about it all day, but rather than paraphrase it for you, I’m going all out. I’ve transcribed it, so that you don’t have to miss a word. Whew! Good stuff.
Sit back, grab a cup of jo – read and get into the know.
12-04-14 Broadcast – Rebroadcasted 12-23-14, 10:00am – 10:13am
WHOOPI: Let’s get right to this, because this is the story that’s on everybodys lips, you know one-week after Ferguson – their verdict, New York grand jurers cleared police of any wrong doing for killing Eric Garner. Now when you heard this, were you kind of surprised, that this was their verdict?
CINDY LAUPER: Well let me just preface this by saying this one thing really quick, there are a lot of policemen who are really dedicated and they are good good cops but there is also an element of people who are bullies and to me, those kind of people should not be police officers. They are in the service, undercover. And I was proud of those kids last night, ’cause you know we were at tree,
ODONNEL: Yes, and you were fantastic!
CINDY: Thank you, but it was Billy Porter.
WHOOPI: Billy with the hat. I love it.
CINDY: Billy looked good. That was Billy Porter from Kinky Boots. Every Christmas. Yes! He won a Tony for that.
WHOOPI: Yes he did and you won a Tony for writing it, not that we’re bragging.
CINDY: No, but thank you.
NICHOLE: Can I just say that I’ve been like, a fan of yours forever and I can’t believe I’m sitting next to you, this is so totally cool. I love it. I love it.
CINDY: Well, it’s like Christmas for you.
PEREZ: Well I thought, with Eric Garner, when I saw it was that, New Yorkers are forward thinking people and I was disappointed. I was very, very disappointed. What I wasn’t disappointed in was the protestors. They kept their cool and they stayed on course.
NICHOLE: Let me just add, the protesters were magnificent last night and the NYPD had a banner night last night. The NYPD could have taught a master class last night on HOW TO RESPECT THE PROTESTERS. I was out at Macy’s with my 2.5 year old last night and I was glad that the protesters had the freedom to protest, to shut down the West side highway. But I was also glad that police sort of kept them away because tourist don’t know our ways and you know, I thought the police could have done a master class last night on How to really respect the will of the protesters and keep some order in our massive city. It was a good night for New York city.
ODONELL: Yes. They worked really hard, although you know, sadly, I did expect this to be the verdict.
CINDY: You did?
ODONNEL: I did. I said it yesterday in the meeting, this is what I expected and it’s sad to me to live in an America and expect this to be our democracy. And I feel that there was a grave injustice. Not only that, but there were minor charges that could have been filed: assault. We have had to watch this man die on television.
PEREZ: Over and over and over again.
ODONNEL: And overtime it breaks my soul just a little bit more. And as I was sitting on the couch with my god son and my daughter, watching it, I just started to cry, and my 12 year old asked me, “Mommy why are people racist?” and I really didn’t have an answer for her.
NICHOLE: You know, in his testimony he said that he ‘put his hands on Mr. Garner, in a maneuver taught to him at the police academy.’ I mean, if that’s true we need to change what we’re teaching police officers, because I don’t think anyone who saw that… this was — there also seems to be complete absence of judgment. He wasn’t — they weren’t engaged with each other because of a violent crime that had taken place. He was selling loose cigarettes. There has to be some trigger…
ODONNEL: He had none on him.
NICHOLE: The way this would have ended if all of this had gone according to code, would have been with a written ticket. So I didn’t see anything on camera that interfered with the police officers ability to take out a ticket, a pen and write a ticket. So, I think it’s more than just this incident. This is just the one that breaks our heart today, but if his testimony is to suggest that they are taught this maneuver in an encounter that doesn’t begin with anything violent or threatening the neighborhood, that needs to change.
PEREZ: But it was on camera! It was all on camera! You think in Ferguson, there are these questions , we weren’t there, we really didn’t see what happen — which is a reason for an indictment! You know so we can go to trial– but here it is on camera and we’re talking about putting cameras on policemen. And I understand the outrage, because it’s like ‘well what would be the point?’ If you have it on camera and we saw a man die.
ODONNEL: And we need to have a bigger conversation.
NICHOLE: There’s a federal investigation going on.
ODONNEL: But it shouldn’t have to go to that point right? The conversation about systemic racism in the United States needs to be opened up for all of us in a dialogue; not just when atrocities like this happen but all of the time because it’s prevalent in America and we need to look at ourselves.
NICHOLE: And I think it’s a broader conversation. I think its also about ‘what are our police officers are being taught to do.’
WHOOPI: And I, I don’t know. For me, it’s just like, I’m sorry, the coroner said, you know, listen, ‘yes – he was overweight, Mr. King.’ Yes he was an overweight gentleman, but he could have lived if he was just standing there Peter King. You see, the coroner said, he died because he couldn’t breath, which he said 11 times and also, the fact that he was asphyxiated — now, I get maybe, you weren’t sure or all of you who said, ‘ he was overweight and that’s why he died,’ — that’s NOT why he died. He had been overweight a long time and walking around, okay. So, if you hadn’t sat on him…
NICHOLE: Can we explain who Congressman King is…
ODONNEL: Sadly is from Long Island and I’m embarrassed to say that he is from Long Island.
NICHOLE: I’m a fan of Peter King, but not of what he said yesterday. He suggested that the death was because of his [Eric Garner] size.
PEREZ: He didn’t suggest, he stated.
NICHOLE: He stated.
WHOOPI: Look, the idea of having heard people say, ‘no we don’t do that practice anymore, a practice that stops you from breathing is an issue, I think. Now maybe I’m crazy. Anything that allows people to take you under here [placing her forearm under her chin – as if to constrict breathing], and pull you back is an issue.
NICHOLE: And step on your head…
WHOOPI: And step on your head. Why didn’t anyone else [say anything], how come there were no other people?
NICHOLE: Why weren’t those other people guilty?
WHOOPI: I don’t understand why everybody wasn’t up [on charges]. I heard rumor that maybe they were given immunity. I don’t know that for a fact, but that’s what 3 or 4 of the outlets have said.
PEREZ: I like what Mayor Bill Deblasio said when he stood up. You know he is married to the first lady who is an um…
WHOOPI: black – she’s a black lady.
PEREZ: She’s a black woman and their son is mixed and he understands first hand and it’s sad. What, [does] everyone have to have a mixed child or a child of color to understand? You know, and I think that what he was saying…
NICHOLE: I don’t think that’s the case. The protesters were a beautiful diverse group of protesters on the street last night…
PEREZ: That’s not what I’m saying. No, no no. I’m not saying that.
WHOOPI: Clarify what you’re saying. Go ahead.
PEREZ: What I’m saying is, is that there are a lot of people who don’t understand what people of color go through. And it usually is that when you have an offspring of color and you’re not then you go ‘Oh! I get it!’ –that’s what I’m saying, in a deeper way.
ODONNEL: I agree, and the bottom line, is do we have equal justice in America, under the law? Are don’t we? And after these grand jury verdicts, we need to discuss that in a way to resolve it.
WHOOPI: Or maybe we need to discuss who’s on the grand jury and how it’s being done. Because, I’m sorry, what it sounded like to me was the same exact thing that was said in Ferguson. It almost sounded word-for-word apology suddenly sounded much like we suggested it should and I was like.. ‘You know, you’re missing the point, you still can’t say, “I did this. This is what happened because I was over zealous.” See, I…
NICHOLE: He did say that thought, the officer said, ‘It was never my intention to harm or injury anyone,” and the grand jury was made up of,
CINDY: Then he shouldn’t have stepped on his head.
NICHOLE: Listen I agree, but you were talking about “saying the right thing,” and this grand jury was diverse.
WHOOPI: Yeah, I don’t see, I know we have to wrap.
CINDY: It’s not The Hunger Games.
WHOOPI: It’s not and also I think it’s also a much bigger thing – it’s much bigger than race. It’s about whose out there protecting us and whose doing their background checks? Whose saying, ‘Hey you know what, you should be getting some help before you become an officer.’ Where’s is that? You know? I don’t know. You know what? I’m hot. We’ll be right back with more HOT TOPICS.
The ladies of The View took this week off for Christmas, I pray the mayhem follows suit.
The people don’t like the tally of police brutality, so they protest in peace.
The police seem to take issue with the people taking to the street.
We, the people, have an issue with the police taking unarmed lives.
Our plight: that justice acknowledge the wrongs and make right.
We, the people are up for this HUMANE fight.
Protest in LARGE VOLUME. We’re doing it For LIFE.
I’m a lover of life and I will not stop.
My heart was further broken by the killing of two cops.
My heart is still aching because I fear this
more lives will be lost, thwarted — dismissed.
Whether cop or civilian, my love is the same.
Karma serves all – please stay out of her lane.
Live by the sword, die by the sword — you know the line.
I respect your life and your journey. Respect mine.
We can do better. We all know it’s a choice.
Be not offended by the plight in your brothers voice.
Be not trigger happy and he won’t return the same.
Acknowledge and stop this. We all deserve change.
It’s Christmas Eve 2014 and so many are crying this morning,
Praying for us all. It’s the best thing to do following that ‘wake up yawning.’
This holiday, consider being good to yourself by being good to someone else.
The gesture will come back to you in spades. You win.
We all win!!