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Gotta Love BILL MAHER Pt. 2

In Communication, Griot, Networking, News, Politics, TV Shows on June 19, 2012 at 1:18 pm

Photo Flipbook Slideshow Maker[Pt.1] Let’s meet our panel:

BILL: He’s a contributing panel with the Daily Beast – David Frum, Republican Pollster Kristen Soltis, MSNBC Political Columnist Karen Finny. Okay so let me ask a question that I presented there in the monologue is that this one is a big one today, because Obama scored a big one for the latinos. A couple of weeks ago it was the gays – is he picking off demographics? Come on you’re a pollster [Kristen] right? It could be all be about demographics. Is he picking off the Democratic constituencies one at a time and is that going to really win him the election?

KRISTEN: It’s really been systematic actually. First we had the “war on women” because Democrats had normally had more…

BILL: The Democrats didn’t start that.

KRISTEN: The Democrats had had an advantage among women voters and then in 2010 election they lost them, so I’m sure…

BILL: They did?

KRISTEN: They did. If you look at the exit polls…

KAREN FINNEY: No. Not single women.

KRISTEN:That’s correct. But if you look at the polls, you’ve got women, you’ve got latinos, you’ve got young voters. These are all coalition groups that came together to help Obama get elected in the first place. And he knows he needs to shore them back up because he knows that he still needs them to turn out but still vote for him in the same way…

BILL: So it’s calculated?

Kristen But I think he needs a message that is broader than just let’s have one message for this group, and one message for this group, and one message for this group. I think he needs to have some kind of economic message that is consistent that can get across all of those groups.

KAREN FINNEY: I think the message of economic fairness has been across all of those groups and it should not surprise anybody that there’s politics in politics. Which I have no a problem with because it seems to be the right thing to do. And let’s be honest, both campaigns at this point are looking for multiple pathways to 270. You can win in gerrymander districts but if you’re going to win a national election you have to be able to get some portion of – wether it’s the female vote, single woman, (they’re calling them “WalMart Moms” (this time around), Latinos, African Americans. So everybody’s got all of their cards on the table.

BILL: “WalMart Moms”? They’re calling them “WalMart Moms”? They used to call them “Soccer Moms”. They got poorer. I think that says a lot about our economy.

KAREN FINNEY: I mean, but hat’s part of what the strategy is. Right? You gotta reach out to everybody.

DAVID: I have a theory that every campaign has a secret slogan that is broadcasting whether they know it or not. For example in 2008 John McCain’s was “More Wars for a Spanish Speaking America” and that didn’t work too well. You don’t always know the slogan…

BILL: (Laughing) We didn’t hear that.

DAVID: But this time each of the campaigns have a secret slogan, Barack Obama’s is “The Republicans the Feds, the Europeans are destroying my beautiful recovery”, but what he doesn’t know is that he’s saying, “and I’m not tough enough, strong enough and smart enough to stop them.” Mitt Romney’s secret slogan that he doesn’t know he’s broadcasting is, “Obama can’t fix the mess we’ve made.”

BILL: You know what? I have to stick up for the president a little bit. I hear this all the time “Obama’s policies aren’t working”, but he hasn’t been allowed to put his policies in place. So it’s not his policies.

DAVID: That’s what I just said, and that’s not a defense.

BILL: That’s not a defense?

DAVID: That’s not a defense because – yes – he’s faced contractable opposition often unfair and disrespectful but his job is to overcome it, and when he makes that excuse…

BILL:Oh really? How could he do that? Short of actually putting a gun to John Bohener’s and head and saying VOTE for this.

KAREN FINNEY: Which he tried.

BILL: Oh Really? How? I don’t know how you do that, especially since they changed the rules in the Senate and made it 60 votes.

KAREN FINNEY: We only had a “so called” majority for about 4 months because Teddy Kennedy got sick, another Senator hadn’t been seated, and the Republicans did a very good job of obstructing the president performance. So to my point…

DAVID: Now you’re giving me reasons of why it didn’t work. That doesn’t alter my point of the fact that didn’t work.

KAREN FINNEY: But my point is to what the president can do – We don’t what.

BILL: Kristen you tweeted recently “The idea that money buys elections is rooted in the premise that voters are dumb.”, and I’ve always been the one to stand up and say “Voters are dumb”. They hate that on the right, but you know.

KRISTEN: So there’s an excuse you hear, whenever an election happens (and the Republicans did this in 2008) and you’ll hear this kind of both sides now, and it’s like the idea that “We got outspent and that’s the reason why we lost.” I mean anytime a campaign looses you hear all sorts of excuses from the candidate was bad, the strategist was bad, the weather wasn’t good and people didn’t turn out for us. And I think a lot of that is just excuses. You never hear a candidate get up and say, “You know what, I lost because people didn’t like my ideas. People disagreed with me.” You never hear that. And I really think ideas, especially in an election when unemployment’s been so high for so long, it’s going to be an election about ideas.

KAREN FINNEY: But we’ve got two factors working here. On the one hand you’ve got, I mean considering it’s a Republican primary – you’ve got one donor shout down with his money, Shelly Addleson, the voice of republican primary voters, who did not support Newt Gingrich – so that’s what we’re seeing. Not to mention with the kind of voter idea schemes that we’re seeing, that’s going to disenfranchise voters. So the kind of money that’s being spent and the amount of democratic voters that are going to be disenfranchised – that is going to contribute quite heavily to what is going to happen in this election.

KRISTEN: Although money can’t buy everything, I think Rick Perry spent about $20 million dollars to get no delegates. So money will only get you so far.

BILL: Right. No amount. If you’re an absolutely bad candidate, take Meg Whitman out here – no amount of money can save them. But I thought it was, (I might repeat this – I said it in my monologue) but this blew my mind today “Obama has had a more fundraisers than the last six presidents combined and he’s still losing in the money race. And that’s because, let me just introduce this: People like Harold Ham, (I had not heard of this guy before, but they wrote about this week), he’s an Oil billionaire and surprise he’s one of Mitt Romney’s top Energy Advisors. I don’t know what you have to do be an Energy Advisor to Mitt Romney. I think you just have to “Fracking is amazing and Global Warming is a hoax”, that’s what he want’s to hear. So he gave $985 thousand dollars to Mitt Romney’s SUPER PAC. Why not million? That’s the first question I have? I mean, does he really need that 15 grand? I mean am being too cynical about Mitt Romney? Can you be too cynical about Mitt Romney?

So it says in his website [Harold Hamm] that he’d like to see less regulations. Maybe he’s got some personal gain in that just to guess. And it’s a good thing that he can give a million dollars, or 10 million dollars or 50 million dollars to Mitt Romney, because he’s going to be the one whose making decisions about regulations. And I’d just like to throw out a quote here from Justice Anthony Kennedy. He said, [per Citizens United] “Independent expenditures, including those made by corporations, do not give rise to corruption… the appearance of influence or access [coming from unlimited corporate spending] will not cause the electorate to lose faith in our democracy.”

Really? What world? What is the color of the sky? This is a Supreme Court Justice? If this guy who is giving Mitt Romney a million dollars or maybe more and is one of his advisors on Energy, if that’s not corruption, then tell me ‘WHAT IS’ Justice Kennedy? Tell me what is corruption?

KAREN FINNEY: What I love on the flip side of that argument is you have conservatives saying that they’re “so afraid of the poor consumers and if people knew that they were contributing my God they might think retribution”. Well if money is speech then I get to use my money to say “I don’t agree with you writing that big of a check and I’m not going to buy your products. But that argument seems to get lost on Republicans.

KRISTEN: But the Citizens United, actually, one of the things that’s sort of like the headline below the headline is that there was this 8:1 vote within the ruling to uphold the constitutionality of transparency, so oddly enough it kind of gets blasted a lot.

KAREN FINNEY: But I don’t think anybody told Mitt Romney that considering that we don’t even know…

DAVID: Super Pac’s are not a creation of Citizens United – they’re the creation by another court case by the DC Circuit and (and more contended) it has a sort of weird intersection at Citizens United. But Citizens United only allowed corporations directly to speak – not to create these anonymous entities. That was created by a different case. But here, I agree this is a terrible problem. It does look corrupt and it doesn’t look like people aren’t buying things. But we are at the end of a 50-year – 60-year period in which we have said ‘the problems has been the political participants.’ What used to happen is people used to give money to political parties and since the 1940’s and especially since the 1970’s we have made it more and more difficult for people to do that. Because we thought the parties were corrupt. And what we’ve done is created this whole alternative candidate center; system of finance with a whole series of laws in each reform that makes it worst. Because each reform has another dose of the poison and the poison is: a dislike and distrust of the parties. If the rule were people gave money to the the Democrats, Libertarians, Republicans, Independents, and those parties could give limitless money tho their candidates – the candidates wouldn’t have to raise it. Right now they can only give $50K each to their candidate. The election costs more than $50K dollars. This is congressional, if the election costs more than $50K dollars the candidate has to go raise the difference himself. And this law was passed in 1940 when $50K is all that elections cost. Change THAT and everything would be different.

BILL: Well what do you think the amount will be (at the end of this election cycle) that each party is going to have to spend on this election?


KAREN FINNEY: The parties or the parties and super pacs? Because remember that the money that’s spent by the campaign and committee’s is more closely regulated than the money that goes to those super pac’s like … you know…

KRISTEN: There is going to be a diminishing return though. I mean at a certain point the difference between airing your ad a million times and two million times and three million times. It eventually just all kind of becomes noise.

BILL: Carpet bombing works. That’s why they do it.

DAVID: You know what works even better, and use a platform for this: ‘there’s nothing more powerful than a knock on the door.’ What has happened in our politics is that we have substituted capital for labor. People don’t volunteer. Nothing could be more powerful and we’ve seen this in 2008 with Barack Obama and other races – that if people were more involved and participatory they would find that THAT is more powerful than the money.

KAREN FINNEY: Is that why Scott Walker paid canvassers in the last election? Paid them. They weren’t volunteers, he paid them to go knock on those doors.

DAVID: Because he’s reading the political science and if you mobilize people. Though a paid canvasser is never going to be as good as someone who believes it. Mobilize them.

BILL: Did you see what Jebb Bush said this week? Because I thought you would be particularly happy about what he said. I always talk about the David Frum wing of the Republican Party — which I call “the sane wing” and you know, they’ve had a tough time in the last few years. [David] You are aware? You’ve been trod marched out to the desert there. You may not see the promise land.

KRISTEN: [to David] I like you.

BILL: But Jeb Bush this week said, ‘You know what if my father were around today or Ronald Reagan they couldn’t get legislation passed. They would be drummed out of the party.’ Which (even though Jeb’s not running for office today) is a pretty gutsy thing to say. Gave me some hope that your wing [David] of the party might be coming back. And there was this sort of nostalgia among liberals now for George Bush (the first). HBO is now doing a documentary about him. Even Ronald Reagan – because Ronald Reagan raised taxes and he was for no nukes, he was very much for collective bargaining. I mean today, that’s Dennis Kucinich.

DAVID: But the most important difference was a commitment to the institutions of the U.S. Government. What has really changed over the past few years is an attack on the institution. That’s one of the themes of my book. It’s one of the themes of our politics – there’s an institutional attack. What George Bush and Ronald Reagan too were – above all were institutionalists. In their day they were very conservative and you would have lots to disagree with them about, but they would not have pushed the country to the edge of bankruptcy in order to make a point. What I’m hoping for from Jeb Bush is that, he started this fight, (he wanted to – he didn’t have to do it). But he was at breakfast, he was asked a question and now — I hope he finishes it. I hope he stays in and believes that he could be the voice that we need, I don’t think he’ll be president, but he could be something much better than president.

BILL: Naw. But I remember his father, you know, the nostalgia for his father? But his father appointed Clarence Thomas, you know ran on Willy Horton, Dan Quaile… excuse me, was Sarah Palin with tits before they had… I mean John McCain did not invent “the bimbo running mate”, George W. Bush did. I just had to say…

KAREN FINNEY: I’d just like to say thing about Jeb Bush for one moment was brave and within a couple of hours when Grover Norquist bitched he started walking that right back. Grover Norquist. Though the Republicans like to say “He’s not in charge of our party. He doesn’t have any influence.” I mean, so you gotta stand by what you say.

DAVID: Finish it. If you start a fight finish it. Steer into the skin.

BILL: Alright. We have something very exciting now, we have a scoop here at REAL TIME. The Romney campaign has made a hologram of Barack Obama. That’s right. Have you seen the hologram of Tupac? And now they have one of Elvis. Okay so the Romney campaign made one of Obama. Why? Because the real Obama is not cooperating. He’s not being the guy they want to run against. They want to run against a socialist who is soft on terror, but they’re running against a guy who has actually spent less in government money getting us out of a recession, (less than Bush or Reagan), and he shot Bin Laden in the eye and took out the rest of Al Qaeda in a cold blooded, methodical and extra legal way. So they have to run against the hologram Barack Obama. Would you like to meet him now? Alright ladies and gentlemen please welcome the man that the Republicans need to run against, the hologram Barack Obama:

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In Communication, Griot, Networking, News, Politics, Self Improvement, Technology, TV Shows on June 19, 2012 at 10:30 am


Ep. 252 June 15th, 2012

Last Friday’s episode was… quite informative, though no more insightful or invigorating than usual. BILL MAHER is quite the host personality and natural comedian. I so enjoyed yesterdays show that I’m going to do a little transcribing today to share it the contents of the show with those of you that missed it. HBO’s REAL TIME with Bill Maher is a continuation of ABC’s POLITICALLY INCORRECT and rightfully so. That Bill is a hoot. Let’s get to the shows contents:

The show started out with a “throw back momnent” with Kevin Costner:

KEVIN: We keep focusing on a crisis, but we don’t want to look back and our leadership has successfully let us down because of their desire to be elected to a second term… Just be content that history will judge you after 4-years. Maybe we don’t need an 8-year president. Maybe we want somebody that swings at the fence for us.

Friday nights guest panel included Joseph Stiglitz, Alan Thicke, Karen Finney, David Frum, and Kristen Soltis. First up, Dr. Stiglitz::

BILL: I must first start with a confession, I’ve been reading you for years so that when I went to cocktail parties, I could fake my way through a discussion of economics. The other day I read that you said, “Everybody’s worried [in this economy] about what’s going to happen to Europe.” In reference to Spain, and you said, “The Spanish Banks are being bailed out by the Spanish Government and the Spanish Government is being bailed out by the banks is ‘boo boo economics’.” That’s great conversation for a cocktail party. But what do I say after that?

Dr. S: How long is it?

BILL: Just a couple of minutes before I run away to get another drink.

Dr. S: No, I meant, “How long is the Spanish economy going to last”?

BILL: Well how long is it going to last?

Dr. S: A few months ago they poured in about a trillion dollars into the ECB [European Central Banks] banking system to bail out the government – and that lasted a couple of months. This time Europe poured in 125 billion dollars and it lasted, (maybe) a couple of days. So the likely hood of it working out is not good.

BILL: But how does that affect us? I mean, this really plays into Mitt Romney’s hands. Doesn’t it?

Dr. S: I don’t know if it plays into Mitt Romney’s hand, but what it will mean is that the economy will be weaker. But it does have another side to it. One of the reasons that we’re going to be affected is, that we haven’t fixed our banking system. Remember we had the crisis in 2008?

BILL: I do remember. I lost all of my money. I had it in Lehman Brothers.

Dr. S: Remember they said they were going to fix it [banking system] and they had this bill called: DODD FRANK?

BILL: Yes.

DR. S: Well they didn’t fix it. One of the things they were supposed to fix is the lack of transparency. But we don’t really know the extent to which our banks are interlaced with European banks.

BILL: We don’t really know?

Dr. S: We don’t know.

BILL: You don’t know?

Dr. S: I don’t know.

BILL: Then I don’t know. I’m the guy who gets my cues from you. Now, you have won a Nobel Prize, I have not, but I am a student of THE THREE STOOGES. Every Three Stooges Episode, (well not “every” episode) but they always do an episode (and also by the way there was Abbott & Costello and the Barrio Boys) where these comedy teams go to a rich persons mansion and they purposely put down vermin, (rats, mice, roaches) and then they come back the next day as exterminators to fix the problem. You see my point?

Dr. S: Yes.

BILL: You do? I’m just saying ‘This is how the Republicans seem to run for president. I mean, they cause the problem, then they come back the next day as the exterminator. I read this week that Americans lost 40% of their wealth from 1990-Present. But most of it happen after 2007 because of policies of the previous 10 years when Bush was in office.

Dr. S: That’s right and in fact, one of the underlying problems was that inequality was growing. And because those at the top spend less than those in the bottom. When you move money from the bottom to the top the inequality gets weaker. The Feds decided to address this problem by creating a bubble.

BILL: Wasn’t that Alan Greenspan?

Dr. S: Yes. Alan Greenspan and it was supported by his successor. And as they created the bubble, people did spend more. Average savings rate in the United States went down to zero. And that’s not sustainable. And one of the lessons we always teach in economics is “that which is not sustainable won’t be sustained”.

BILL: I’m going to remember that for the next cocktail party. That’s a good one. Sir I read this week that the cost of tickets at Disney Land has gone up to $87 dollars. It used to be $12 dollars in 1982. Now if they were keeping up with inflation it would only gone up to $28 dollars. But it went up to $87 which means a family of five would have to pay…

Dr. S: A lot.

BILL: A lot. As in too much. I mean not that I even want to go to Disney Land but it should be $28 dollars and somehow it got to $87 dollars. It seems to me that says a lot about where the money has gone and whose enjoying this country and why so many people should be pissed off.

Dr. S: That’s right. But what makes me even more concerned is what’s happening to student loans. You know one of the things that came out in the fed report early this week was that Americans have learned [a little bit] about the lessons of credit cards. They’ve figured out [they understood]that all of the banks engaged in abusive credit card practices. But as credit card debt has gone down student load debt has gone up. And what’s so invidious about this is that tuition’s going up very rapidly in 3 years for public state university – it has gone up 15% across the country, but in California and a couple of other states it’s gone up by more than 40%. Understandable given that the states are constrained, they’re cutting back – no help from Washington. And while income’s are going down [wealth is going down] and tuition is going up, students know that if they don’t get an education their life prospects are dim, not good. But if they forgo accepting the gap in education they’re going to be saddled with this for the rest of their lives. Even in bankruptcy they cannot discharge that debt.

BILL: But I must say, it’s not all the fault of the people that’s giving the education or stopping the money going there I read recently in 2009 [the last year they had statistics for this], there were only 39,000 students that graduated with a STEM degree [Science, Technology, Engineering, Math], and they had 2.5 time more students graduating with a degree in Visual and Performing Arts.

Dr. S: This is Los Angeles, so that’s pretty good isn’t it?

BILL: Yeah but Los Angeles isn’t America and when Obama says “We should fix the bridges.” I agree we should fix the bridges – with people who have degrees in Visual and Performing Arts? I think they’re are people around who know how to fix the f@*#ing bridges. [Close] I wish we had more time Doc. Thank you for coming on the show.

After transcribing this piece – that seemed to go on and on,
I realized transcribing more than this & the piece would be too long.

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Happy Tuesday,
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Pt. 2 [Meet Friday nights panel and the “Hologram Barack Obama” – played by Reggie Brown]